In this episode of Both Success And Integrity With Bessi Graham, Bessi chats with Be Slavery Free Co-Directors, Fuzz & Carolyn Kitto.

There are more slaves now than at any point in history. In fact, we have more slaves today in 2023, than the whole transatlantic slave trade put together. Modern slavery is an issue your business is coming up against, whether you’re conscious of it or not. To understand the impact your business is having, we must take a more intentional approach to the decisions you’re making, and the way that you’re spending money. A significant part of that taps into who you are procuring goods and services from today.  You can play an important role in ending modern slavery by facing these hard conversations and learning much from the two leaders in the field of stopping modern slavery. 

 Also in this episode: 

  • The definition of modern slavery
  • How many people are tricked or coerced into modern slavery without realizing it
  • Why it’s important for us in the west to avoid the “all or nothing syndrome”
  • How being active and promoting the fight against modern slavery can increase sales
  • Why social audits in companies are only about 30% accurate
  • If you don’t know where your goods are coming from then you can’t know what’s actually happening in your company
  • Being efficient and effective in your company’s messaging about values, strategies, and the language we use to talk about modern slavery

Connect with Fuzz & Carolyn Kitto


About Fuzz & Carolyn Kitto

Carolyn Kitto, Co-Director, Be Slavery Free: Carolyn is passionate about eliminating modern slavery with over 20 years of experience working with business, government, civil society and society to bring awareness, legislative change and equip business. Carolyn was engaged in introducing and implementing the Australian Modern Slavery Act and the New South Wales Modern Slavery Act. As part of a global think-tank, she helps support and promote the introduction of legislation to eradicate slavery throughout the world.  

Fuzz Kitto, Co-Director, Be Slavery Free: Fuzz leads Be Slavery Free – a coalition of civil society, community and faith groups and unions seeking to prevent, disrupt and abolition modern slavery. He has extensive experience in undertaking community consultations, strategic planning and human rights engagement. His work in recent years has been in supporting business with resources in their role in ending modern slavery; curating and convening conversations which promote best practice learning and through designing and experimenting with system changes and collaborations.  


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About Bessi Graham:

With over 20 years of experience working with business owners, governments, and large funding bodies to bring “doing good” and “making money” back together, my experience spans from the grassroots of sitting in the dirt working with business owners across the Pacific Islands through to the United Nations in Geneva. This has given me an unparalleled perspective on what makes change happen. 

You know you were born to do something significant, so don’t leave it to chance.

Modern Slavery And Your Business: What You Need To Know | feat. Fuzz & Carolyn Kitto

Both Success And Integrity: Doing Well By Doing Good Inside Your Business with Bessi Graham